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Debate: How to Value an L1 Token
1时16分36秒
06-02
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Gm and Happy Monday! This week, Dan Smith, a Lead Blockworks Researcher and Jonah Weinstein, a Portfolio Manager of SkyCatcher, join Jason to dive into the timely conversation about which metric is better/best to evaluate L1 tokens – REV or RSOV?


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Chapters:


00:00 - Intro


02:31 - Why Do We Need Better Valuation Frameworks?


05:00 - What’s Wrong With The Metrics Today?


08:07 - What’s The Proper Reference Point To Understand Value?


09:33 - Are L1 Tokens Money?


11:10 - Ads (Skale Marinade)


12:48 - Is A L1 Token A Commodity Or Company?


19:32 - Why RSOV Valuation Is So Important


23:48 - Ads (Skale Marinade)


29:07 - Valuation Litmus Test


31:38 - RSOV & Capital Inflows


35:31 - Validators Get Paid In Native Currency


37:53 - What’s REV?


42:58 - RSOV’s Valuation Mechanism


44:43 - Where RSOV and REV differ


47:27 - If Native Assets 10X, Do The Hotspots?


49:05 - Ads (Falcon x, LEDN)


50:52 - Monetary L1 Premium Factor In?


52:56 - Fiat Currency Crisis Accelerate Non Govt Adoption


55:36 - RSOV vs REV Valuation Trends Over Time


01:00:49 - How Does Staking / DeFi Deposits Impact Valuation?


01:02:47 - PE Values In RSOV


01:05:25 - Audience Question From Telegram


01:12:19 - Dan’s Updated Views of RSOV



Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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Timestamps:


(00:00) Intro


(01:35) Beware Of Fake Empire Scams


(05:10) Circle IPO (20X Oversubscribed)


(15:18) Ads (Geodnet, Marinade)


(16:52) HOOD, COIN or CRCL?


(24:51) Ads (Geodnet, Marinade)


(26:25) PumpDotFun $1B Raise Explored


(42:05) Ads (Ledger, Aptos, Citrea)


(44:18) Trump Wallet Real or Not?


(45:49) Trump Family Too Involved In Crypto?


(48:32) Global Remittances With StableCoins


(53:44) MoonPay Gets NY BitLicense


(56:47) Crypto Infinite Money Glitch?


(01:01:49) DeFiSaver



Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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